Metavid

Video archive of the US Congress

House Proceeding 04-30-09 on Apr 30th, 2009 :: 0:28:35 to 0:48:35
Total video length: 2 hours 32 minutes Stream Tools: Stream Overview | Edit Time

Note: MetaVid video transcripts may contain inaccuracies, help us build a more perfect archive

Download OptionsEmbed Video

Views:604 Duration: 0:20:00 Discussion

Previous speech: Next speech:

Spencer Bachus

0:26:05 to 0:28:35( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Spencer Bachus

Spencer Bachus

0:28:30 to 0:28:36( Edit History Discussion )

Spencer Bachus: prevent some financial difficulties like ms. slaughter said, but often times it will

Lincoln Davis

0:28:37 to 0:28:58( Edit History Discussion )

Lincoln Davis: sult in students not having the use of a credit card. thank you. ms. slaughter: i would like to yield the remainder of my time to mr. duncan. the chair: a minute and a half. the gentleman is recognized for a minute a half.

Lincoln Davis

0:28:50 to 0:29:10( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Lincoln Davis

Lincoln Davis

0:28:59 to 0:29:12( Edit History Discussion )

Lincoln Davis: mr. duncan: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i'll be very brief. i first want to commend my colleague, the gentlelady from new york, for her hard work on this over many years as she has mentioned. the college student loan program

John J. Jr.Duncan

0:29:13 to 0:29:34( Edit History Discussion )

John J. Jr.Duncan: has resulted in many thousands and thousands of college graduates graduating from college or even before graduation encuring huge, huge debts. when you add credicard debts on top of that, now the average graduating college student has a combined credit card and student

John J. Jr.Duncan

0:29:15 to 0:30:40( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: John J. Jr.Duncan

John J. Jr.Duncan

0:29:35 to 0:29:56( Edit History Discussion )

John J. Jr.Duncan: loan debt of $20,402, many, many thousands have much, much more than that. i think this amendment, some of what my friend, the gentleman from alabama, has discussed don't really pertain specific amendment that ms. slaughter and i have done. this amendment applies only to full-time, traditional aged college students defined as

John J. Jr.Duncan

0:29:57 to 0:30:17( Edit History Discussion )

John J. Jr.Duncan: full-time -- as a full-time student in the issu of higher education who has not yet reached the age of 21. this amendment does not apply to anyone over the age of 21. i think it's a very reasonable amendment and a very minimal limitation or restr credit cards. some universities, many universities across this country have entered into deals with credit card companies and now

John J. Jr.Duncan

0:30:18 to 0:30:39( Edit History Discussion )

John J. Jr.Duncan: they are not only encouraging students to incur huge student loan debts, they are encouraging students to incur credit card debts. i think this amendment is -- will send a message to parents and college students that they at least need to think about -- we passed a resolution a couple days ago encouraging a financial literacy program recognizing the

John J. Jr.Duncan

0:30:40 to 0:30:41( Edit History Discussion )

John J. Jr.Duncan: fact that many people don't have

Jeb Hensarling

0:30:42 to 0:31:02( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: the financial literacy that they need. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. duncan: i urge support for this amendment. the chair: the gentleman from texas. mr. neugebauer: yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman from texas, mr. hensarling. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for 1/2 minutes. mr. hensarling: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i surge appreciate the intent behind -- i certainly appreciate

Jeb Hensarling

0:30:45 to 0:32:25( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Jeb Hensarling

Jeb Hensarling

0:31:03 to 0:31:24( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: the intent behind the legislation. but i'm fearful what its adverse impact could be. like many people across this nation and probably many people in this institution i worked my way through undergraduate school. i worked a couple of different jobs at texas a&m university back in the mid 1970's to get through college. to get to those jobs i somehow

Jeb Hensarling

0:31:25 to 0:31:45( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: had to keep an old 1965 mustang running. it didn't want to run. for some reason a credit card company sent me a solicitation and i got a credit card. whether hi a transmission problem that i couldn't pay for, whether hi a water pump go

Jeb Hensarling

0:31:46 to 0:32:08( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: that credit card tied me over, made sure i had traportation to get to my job to pay for my undergraduate studies. and i hate to think about all the college students in america who may be denied that opportunity. i used it the way it was supposed to be used. i used it for emergen purposes. i used it to tied me -- tide me

Jeb Hensarling

0:32:09 to 0:32:25( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: over until that next chache came in we -- paycheck came in. we are talking about folks over 18, can go to war, marry, own real property. we shouldn't be paternalistic to we shouldn't deny them what could be an incredibly valuable tool to get them through college

Randy Neugebauer

0:32:26 to 0:32:49( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: in the first place so i urge the rejection of this amendment. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from texas. mr. neugebauer: thank you. i yield myself the balance of my time. i think one of the concerns i have is this is a road we seem

Randy Neugebauer

0:32:30 to 0:34:15( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Randy Neugebauer

Randy Neugebauer

0:32:50 to 0:33:10( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: these first 100 days, and that is the federal government telling people what they can and cannot do. i was--i was shocked this we when e.p.a. administrator lisa jackson told public radio that it was time to -- for america to have a single road map and the government to basically tell americans what kind of cars they ought to beriving. now we have an amendment here

Randy Neugebauer

0:33:11 to 0:33:32( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: that's going to tell college students whether they can have a credit card or not. this is the america that our founding fathers founded. they founded this nation on empowerment. they founded it on the basis of freedom of choice. no we are taking choices away. like the gentleman from texas just said, my wife and i put ourselves through college. we felt like we were fairly responsible. we weren't getting student loans.

Randy Neugebauer

0:33:33 to 0:33:54( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: we were working. from time to time we needed a little extra help and we were able to use our gasoline credit card or credit card for unforeseen expenses. now we are telling the people 18 to 2 we don't think the governnt doesn't think you ought to have a credit card or you're not responsible enough to have a credit card. now we have an amendment that says, by the way, we are not going to teach you how to use your credit appropriately.

Randy Neugebauer

0:33:55 to 0:34:17( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: we are going to take your credit anybody that knows wha challenges that young people in college are facing today would know that this is not a good thing for these young people. many of working their way through school and they use this credit card as a valuable tool. ranking member bachus said 77% of students at universities ty are using these cards.

0:34:18 to 0:34:40( Edit History Discussion )

irresponsibly. so now for those people that feel like that somehow there is predatory activities going on, we are going to take that right away. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentlelady from new york. so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes h the amendment is agreed to.

0:34:41 to 0:35:05( Edit History Discussion )

mr. neugebauer: mr. speaker, i the chair: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlelady from new york be will be postponed. it is now in order to consider amendment number 4, printed in house report 111-92. for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois rise?

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:35:06 to 0:35:26( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: mr. gutierrez: i have amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 4, printed in house report number 111-92, offered by mr. gutierrez of illinois. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 379, the gentleman from illinois, mr. gueter res. -- gutierrez, and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the gentleman -- the chair recognizes the gentleman from

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:35:20 to 0:37:30( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Luis V. Gutierrez

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:35:27 to 0:35:47( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: illinois. mr. gutierrez: i yield myself three minutes. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. gutierrez: mr. chairman, this amendment which includes language that was requested by the wte house addresses how credit card companies allocate payments when a consumer is

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:35:48 to 0:36:09( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: carrying balances on their credit cards at several different interest rates. under existing law when different portions of a consumer's credit card balance have different interest rates, the credit card insurer may allocate payments in excess of the minimum payment in any manner they choose. many allocate these excess payments to the portion of the balance with the lowest interest

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:36:10 to 0:36:32( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: rate, ensuring interest porons remain on the debtor's account longer. h.r. 627 as reported requires payments in excess of the minimum payment to be allocated either, one, to the portion with the highest interest rate first, and then other portions based on two on a pro rata basis.

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:36:33 to 0:36:53( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: the gutierrez-edwards-peters amendment would eliminate thi option and require credit card insurers to allocate payments in excess of the minimum payment to the portion of the consumer's remaing balance highest interest rate first and then by any remaining balances in descending order. this amendment would prevent the credit insurers -- credit card

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:36:54 to 0:37:14( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: insurers from abusing their introductory rates they offer by allocating payments to the lowest rate balance first while the industry makes their profits from keeping the highest interest rate balance on the consumer's account which is common practice today. our consumers need every tool we can give them to pay down their existing credit cardebt and avoid getting taught in the cycle of debt.

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:37:15 to 0:37:30( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: this amendment would of power from credit card companies to our consumers. i thank the two wonderful freshmen members who co-sponsored this amendment, mr. peters from michigan and ms. edwards from maryland. i strongly urge my colleagues to support this amendment.

Randy Neugebauer

0:37:31 to 0:37:52( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: i reserve the balance of my . the chair: the gentleman reserves his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from mr. neugebauer: i rise to claim time in opposition to the amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized.

Randy Neugebauer

0:37:35 to 0:38:30( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Randy Neugebauer

Randy Neugebauer

0:37:53 to 0:38:14( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: mr. neugebauer: the bill itself reached a compromise about this. it's allowed to prorate that. if there was an introductory period where the interest rate was lower and later on that passed, it was fair to prorate the payments based on the -- between the two rate the old rate and new rate this one now allows the payment to be

Randy Neugebauer

0:38:15 to 0:38:30( Edit History Discussion )

Randy Neugebauer: applied to the introductory rate. i think what it's going to do, i think it's going to continue to restrict the kinds of cards and choices that american people are going to be able to use, look at, and be given from

Jeb Hensarling

0:38:31 to 0:38:55( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: the various creditard companies. so i'm opposed to this. at this time, i would like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from texas, mr. hensarling. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. hensarling: i thank the gentlelady for yielding. i fear that what we have here is another form of price

Jeb Hensarling

0:38:35 to 0:40:50( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Jeb Hensarling

Jeb Hensarling

0:38:56 to 0:39:16( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: controls being applied to credit card availability. you know, what's going to happen here, as we attempt to protect the consumer, i think we're about to protect him right out of having any opportunity to have an introductory rate. i mean, what's going to end up happening here is, instead of say, enjoying a 10% rate for

Jeb Hensarling

0:39:17 to 0:39:38( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: three months and a 15% rate kicks in for the next nine months, you're just going to end up with 15% for the whole year. again, the answer here is to allow consumers to have choice. you know, people can understand this if we will write the disclosure in the right way,

Jeb Hensarling

0:39:39 to 0:40:00( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: yes, there are deceptive practices, but don't hurt the consumer as you claim up -- clean up deceptive practices. but let the consumer choose. let the consumer choose. particularly for those who pay their bill otime at the end of each month. they're going to be hurt every

Jeb Hensarling

0:40:01 to 0:40:21( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: time you take away a little bit and chip away at the ability for people to have their risk priced because those who are good risks are going to end up subsidizing those who aren't. i fear again that this will be an amendment that has untold, unintended consequences that are going to ultimately hurt

Jeb Hensarling

0:40:22 to 0:40:44( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: the consumer. there's a lot of different things i'd love for congress to do. i don't like to pay extra for the cheese on the cheeseburger. maybe we can somehow pass a law that they can't charge me extra for it. what's going to happen is, one, either thing gng to have to

Jeb Hensarling

0:40:45 to 0:40:50( Edit History Discussion )

Jeb Hensarling: stop offering the cheeseburger or they're going to go somewhere else.

Donna Edwards

0:40:51 to 0:41:12( Edit History Discussion )

Donna Edwards: we're going to protect consumers out of any opportunity to have introductory rates if they wish them. the chair: the gentleman from illinois. mr. gutierrez: may i ask h much time is remaining on our sides? thenan

Donna Edwards

0:40:55 to 0:42:35( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Donna Edwards

Donna Edwards

0:41:13 to 0:41:34( Edit History Discussion )

Donna Edwards: two minutes. mr. gutierrez: i yield two minutes to the gentlelady. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized. >> thank you to chairman gutierrez for his leadership on this issue and to mrs. maloney

Donna Edwards

0:41:35 to 0:41:55( Edit History Discussion )

Donna Edwards: and others for their protection of consumers. th is supported by the white house. it would simply require credit card issuers to allocate payments in excess of the minimum payment to the portion of the balance with the highest balance. today, most credit card

Donna Edwards

0:41:56 to 0:42:16( Edit History Discussion )

Donna Edwards: companies put the highest interest rate at the bottom of the balance. even if you make a payment every month, none will go to the high interest rate until it has coffered the low interest rate. this is costing consumers thousands of dollars. it makes it difficult if not

Donna Edwards

0:42:17 to 0:42:35( Edit History Discussion )

Donna Edwards: impossible to make for consumers to pay off their debt. it makes consumers forever indebted because you can nev pay off the high interest debt. the practice has to be changed and this is the way to change it. the underlying bill is doing

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:42:36 to 0:42:56( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: the right thick for consumers and saving them thousands that can be put straight back into the economy. i urge my colleagues to support this amendment and the underlying bill. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman from texas. mr. neugebauer: i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman from illinois.

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:42:40 to 0:44:35( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Luis V. Gutierrez

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:42:57 to 0:43:17( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: mr. gutierrez: i yield myself the remaing time. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for a minute and a half. mr. gutierrez: first of all,s that simple, common sense practice for consumers. it says you had an interest rate of 10% on the first $100 you took, then the credit card company raises it to 20%, take

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:43:18 to 0:43:39( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: another $100, and the minimum payment is $30 on the $200 but you make a payment of $50. what happens with that $20 extra over the minimum payment, it goes to reduce the debt on the highest interest rate first. therefore the consumer is protected from the hike. i want to say that this

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:43:40 to 0:44:00( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: amendment comes after conversations of the president and the white house with the credit card industry, it was sent over here to the house, i'm proud to join the gentlelady from maryland in proping this common sense amendment to protect consumers. just think, you have a chance to put consumers first in

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:44:01 to 0:44:22( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: allowing them to pay down the debt at the highest interest rate after the credit card company changed the rate on you. that's all this really does. it's a very consumer oriented. that's what i think we should be about here today. the chair: the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from illinois. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no.

Luis V. Gutierrez

0:44:23 to 0:44:37( Edit History Discussion )

Luis V. Gutierrez: in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. the amendment is agreed. to it is now in order to consider amendment number five

0:44:38 to 0:44:58( Edit History Discussion )

printed in house report 111-92. for what purpose does the gentlelady f ms. pingree: mr. chairman, i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number five printed in house report 111-92, offered by ms. pingree of maine.

Chellie Pingree

0:44:59 to 0:45:19( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: the chair: pursuant to house resolution 389 an, the gentlelady from maine, ms. pingree, and a member opposed each will control five minutes. ms. pingree: thank you, mr. chairman. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. pingree: i need thank chairman frank, chairman

Chellie Pingree

0:45:05 to 0:49:00( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Chellie Pingree

Chellie Pingree

0:45:20 to 0:45:40( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: gutierrez and congresswoman maloney for their tireless effort on the bill before us today. this bill takes real steps to curbhe unfair, unreasonable and deceptive practices that nearly 175 americans with credit cards are subject to. late fees, over the limit fees, arbitrary increases in interest rates, the credit card

Chellie Pingree

0:45:41 to 0:46:02( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: companies have gotten away with far too much for far too long. it's time we level the playing field for small businesses, families, and individuals. in maine like so many places across the country, this is one of the most impoant issues on the minds of hard-working men and women. if they have not themselves been the victim of arbitrary rate increases, double cycle

Chellie Pingree

0:46:03 to 0:46:24( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: billing and deceptive fees, buried in pages of indecipherable terms, then they know someone who has. while these deceptive and misleading practices have always been unfair, they have devastating financial consequences during this time of economic difficulty when more and more people are using their credit cards to buy gasoline to pay for health care

Chellie Pingree

0:46:25 to 0:46:45( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: builds or put food on the table. in maine, not only have we been customers, but we are also employees of a credit card company. as employees we have seen first hand the pervasive and unethical methods these companies employed. when mbna, now bank of america, came into our community, people

Chellie Pingree

0:46:46 to 0:47:06( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: who traditionally had built homes or been fishermen found themselves using deceptive company practices to sel neighbors credit they couldn't afford. it took its toll. last fall, nightline profiled two people who pushed customers into taking huge cash advances

Chellie Pingree

0:47:07 to 0:47:28( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: they couldn't afford. they urged customers to -- they urged employees to take advantage of customers sending kids to college. one woman said, i would literally be crying in the sink

Chellie Pingree

0:47:29 to 0:47:49( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: doing dishes. the methods they were forced to enforce went squarely against what they lived by every day. that's why it's so important to pass this landmark bill today. i strongly support the bill before us but i want to beure it's implemented as soon as and as well apossible. we need to be dill yent about making sure the industry and

Chellie Pingree

0:47:50 to 0:48:10( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: regulators hold up their end o the legislation. my amendment requires that the chairman of the board of governors of the federal reserve system reports on the level of implementation every 90 days until he can report full industry adoption. mr. chairman, consum demanded that congress act to stop the egregiousractices of

Chellie Pingree

0:48:11 to 0:48:32( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: credit card companies and it is our responsibility to provide acuntability and oversight that is necessary to ensure this happens. as we move to rebuilt our economy in a way that is honest and fair this common sense legislation will allow card holders to responsibly manage their finances. today, this body has the opportunity to change course by fixing a broken credit card

Chellie Pingree

0:48:33 to 0:48:55( Edit History Discussion )

Chellie Pingree: system. i urge a yes vote on the rule and the underlying bill and yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from xas rise? mr. neugebauer: we do not claim any time in opposition to the bill. the chair: the gentlewoman from maine. ms. pingree: i yield back my

Personal tools

MetaVid is a non-profit project of UC Santa Cruz and the Sunlight Foundation. Learn more About MetaVid

The C-SPAN logo and other servicemarks that may be found in video content are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Metavid