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Senate Proceeding on Apr 27th, 2009 :: 3:00:00 to 3:20:00
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Patrick Leahy

2:49:30 to 3:01:15( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Patrick Leahy

Patrick Leahy

2:59:45 to 3:00:06( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: we have leading charged with multimillion dollar fraud schemes carried out over the years. and, madam president, to say what this is, reports of mortgage fraud are up the past five years, more 2,800% over the past decade.

Patrick Leahy

3:00:07 to 3:00:28( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: some say we're losing more than $4 billion a year to mortgage fraud. the problem is getting worse, not better. the victims of these frauds have to be protected now more than ever. the victims include, as i said, homeowners, fleeced by unscrupulous mortgage brokers. retirees have lost their life's

Patrick Leahy

3:00:29 to 3:00:52( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: savings in stock scams and ponzi schemes. which come to light only as corporations collapse and the market falls. but they also include taxpayers who've invested billions of dollars to restore our economy.

Patrick Leahy

3:00:53 to 3:01:13( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: these american taxpayers expect they've made and make sure those funds are not exploited by fraud fraud. each one of us are among those taxpayers. we want to make sure the money is is not stolen. i have other things i'll say, but i will put my full statement and a number of letters in the

Patrick Leahy

3:01:14 to 3:01:15( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: record because i see the

Chuck Grassley

3:01:16 to 3:01:38( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: distinguished cosponsor of bill, senator floor, and i yield to him. mr. grassley: mr. president? madam president. i'm sorry. senator from iowa. mr. grassley: thank you. i heard the kind remarks of the senator from vermont. i thank him f about this senator and thank hmmm for his cooperation on --

Chuck Grassley

3:01:20 to 3:08:45( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Chuck Grassley

Chuck Grassley

3:01:39 to 3:02:00( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: and thank him for his cooperation on this bill, some things i very much interested in but also the legislation that he proposed i support as enthuse gas particularly as i do the rest of the bill. so, thank you, the senator from vermont. so i'm here obviously to speak in support of the legislation

Chuck Grassley

3:02:01 to 3:02:21( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: "fraud enforcement recovery that's been so thoroughly discussed by our distinguished chairman of the judiciary committee. as the lead republican cosponsor of this timely antifraud legislation, i believe it is a very important component, very important component to help get both the financial and the

Chuck Grassley

3:02:22 to 3:02:44( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: housing markets back on track. the fraud enforcement tools and resources provided in this bill are very, very necessary. they will ensure that the taxpayers' dollars that have been extended a shore up bank and financial institutions and

Chuck Grassley

3:02:45 to 3:03:06( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: and freddie mae and freddie mac and others aren't lost to fraud, waste, and abuse.?? this bill sends a very clear message to that their conduct will have repercussions from here on out. it will also make sure that

Chuck Grassley

3:03:07 to 3:03:28( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: money lost to fraud can be recovered through the false claims act. most help show the american people that we're we're doing something to try and prevent future fraud and recover moneys lost tohat fraud and

Chuck Grassley

3:03:29 to 3:03:49( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: that abuse. that is why i'm v cloture on this bill. now, early in the process bringing this bill to the floor, i explained to the democratic leadership that i wanted an open process for amendments to be considered on this bill before i

Chuck Grassley

3:03:50 to 3:04:10( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: supported the cloture tha that we'll be votg upon. the leadership honored that, and we had a number of amendments filed on this bill. we spent and disposed of a number of amendments to the bill. we have also -- we hav some

Chuck Grassley

3:04:11 to 3:04:31( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: other amendments that remain outstanding that are good amendments and should be debated on a housing or banking bill that's coming up in the very near future. so it's now time to pass this bill. our law enforcement need these tools, and they need

Chuck Grassley

3:04:32 to 3:04:52( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: these resources, and they need them n. that is why i'm going to vote for cloture on this bill. the taxpayers have been asked to shoulder an enormous burden at this time of economic crisis created by a credit crisis.

Chuck Grassley

3:04:53 to 3:05:14( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: they've shouldered an enormous burden, be it the bailout of economic stimulus bill that handed out $1 trillion, and more recently the omnibus appropriations bill loaded full of government spending. now, to my colleagues, whether

Chuck Grassley

3:05:15 to 3:05:35( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: or not you agree with these expenditures, we simply cannot allow these funds to be unprotected from fraud, waste, and abuse. this legislation ensures our law enforcement officials andur prosecutors have the tools necessary to enforce our

Chuck Grassley

3:05:36 to 3:05:56( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: laws and the resrces to hunt down it makes revisions to our criminal fraud laws to ensure that complex financial mortgage cris aren't ouide the scope of federal jurisdiction in the future.

Chuck Grassley

3:05:57 to 3:06:17( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: it also makes necessary corrections to our antimoney laundering laws to ensur recent supreme court decision doesn't limit the ability of our department of justice to go after criminals who launder their ill-got finally, and perhaps most

Chuck Grassley

3:06:18 to 3:06:39( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: importantly from the standpoint of this senator, the bill amends the ensure that taxpayers' money lost to fraud can in fact be recovered, and particularly when that recovery is associated with the patriotic

Chuck Grassley

3:06:40 to 3:07:01( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: work of whistle-blowers who make that known. back in 1986 i authored major revisions to the false claims act and did that so that we could fight fraud, particularly against government then more so

Chuck Grassley

3:07:02 to 3:07:23( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: than now by defense contractors. now it seems to be medicare health care industry. since those revisions were signed into law in 1986 by president claims act has recovered over $22 billion of taxpayer money.

Chuck Grassley

3:07:24 to 3:07:44( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: this power law taxpayers to act as private attorneys general by going to court on behalf of our government when they know of fraud against the these qui tam whistle-blowers are the heart and soul of the false claims act.

Chuck Grassley

3:07:45 to 3:08:06( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: they uncover fraud from the inside, bringing schemes to light taken for a ride. however, in recent years litigation fueled government defense and health care contractors legal loopholes that threaten

Chuck Grassley

3:08:07 to 3:08:29( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: the application of this powerful tool that has brought in $22 billion. this legislation thus ensuring go unpunished by simply navigating through the legal loopholes. this bill will help defer

Chuck Grassley

3:08:30 to 3:08:45( Edit History Discussion )

Chuck Grassley: potential de-- deter potential defrauders from attempting to scam the government and the taxpayers. in addition, this legislation will help instill confidence back into the housing and financial markets, and i hope that my colleagues will join by

Patrick Leahy

3:08:46 to 3:09:08( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: voting for cloture on this bill to help make s taxpayer dollars are protected. i yield the floor. mr. inhofe: madam the presiding officer: the senator fr oklahoma. mr. inhofe: madam president, i'd like to -- i ask unanimous consent that i be recognized as if in morning business. however, if anyone wants to come in and talk about the pending

Patrick Leahy

3:08:50 to 3:09:25( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Patrick Leahy

Patrick Leahy

3:09:09 to 3:09:27( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: bill, i will them. mr. leahy: reserving the right to object -- and i shall not object -- madam president, what time is this bill scheduled for a vote? the presiding officer at -- the vote will occur at 5:20, vote on cloture. mr. leahy: would be kind enough to

James Inhofe

3:09:28 to 3:09:48( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: his unanimous include -- but not to interfere with the vote at mr. inhofe: i certainly amend it accordingly. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. inhofe: again, i would say if anyone wants to come in and talk about this the vote that's coming up, i will yield to him. i just -- madam president, i seem to be involved in four missions right now and one of

James Inhofe

3:09:30 to 3:18:30( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: James Inhofe

James Inhofe

3:09:49 to 3:10:10( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: them happens to with the guantanamo bay defense facility. i have had occasion to be down at that faci 9/11 and then, of course, just the other day i was down again. ve looked at that, and there are some very serious problems that i think many members

James Inhofe

3:10:11 to 3:10:31( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: this body are not aware of, and one is that when president obama gave his excellent was his inaugural speech, he recognized that we need to determine what we're going to do with those who are currently detained at guantanamo bay and those that may come into that

James Inhofe

3:10:32 to 3:10:52( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: facility as result of the escalation of activity afghanistan before making a determination that it has to be closed. unfortunately, after -- two days after he made that speech, he stated it was g and the prison would be closed within a yr.

James Inhofe

3:10:53 to 3:11:13( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: on february 2, i took a group down there, some senators who had never been to guantanamo bay. back is say, why are we considering giving up this facility? in fact, shortly after that i introduced legislation that would prevent any transfers of detainees from guantanamo to anywhere in the united states or

James Inhofe

3:11:14 to 3:11:35( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: its territories. and the reason i did because while this has been used to detain some 800 al qaeda and taliban right now to about 525 of those have been tried and departed from gitmo for other countries.

James Inhofe

3:11:36 to 3:11:56( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: now, today there are approximately 245 detainees left. this is the problem: these detainees,bout 170, near as we can determine, are very, very serious detainees such as khalid mohammed and others who were directly involved in the planning of 9/11.

James Inhofe

3:11:57 to 3:12:17( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: many of these, the c will not accept them back. they can't be repatriated to any country. nobody wants so the choices are really limited. either to keep them at that facility or to figure out some way to put them into, as has been suggested, some facility in

James Inhofe

3:12:18 to 3:12:38( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: the continental united states. they've talked about some 17 places that could detain these terrorists. the problem you have with that is these would become 17 magnets for terrorism in the united states. and i can't find one member of the united states senate -- not one -- who is willing to sl them -- any of these detained in his

James Inhofe

3:12:39 to 3:13:02( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: her states. and i think this -- it's -- the reason -- i is this obsession people have to closing this facility? you know, it's kind of funny because it's one of the few good things thought out there the good deals that we have. we've had this facility since 1903.

James Inhofe

3:13:03 to 3:13:23( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: amount of money, $4,000 a year, for this facility, and it has -- it is the state-of-the-art place in the united states to take care of this type let's keep in mind that we also have expeditionary legal complex located at gitmo. it is about the only place of its kind in the world where you

James Inhofe

3:13:24 to 3:13:44( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: can try these cases. if you don't try them there, very likely they could find they are way into our justice system and of course i think we all understand that evidence are different than they are in that would

James Inhofe

3:13:45 to 3:14:05( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: the different -- in our federal judiciary system. what we are looking at -- and i had madam president, to go to ft. sill in my state of oklahoma, which is one of that had been named as possible areas for detention of these individuals. sergeant major carter was there

James Inhofe

3:14:06 to 3:14:28( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: the one running the she had been -- had occasion to be stationed for over a year at guantanamo, and she said, why in the world would we give up that facility to send them down here ft. sill? we don't have the compass toy keep them in

James Inhofe

3:14:29 to 3:14:53( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: if i indications that they guantanamo. and secondly, the ratio is 1:2 in terms of health care facilities. these detainees -- there is one health care in most occasions there are doctors and nurses for each bay. we don't have anything like that at st. sill or leavenworth or any of the other places that

James Inhofe

3:14:54 to 3:15:14( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: have been consequently, they have studied and found and determined that never has there been a case of abuse in the way of human rights abuses with the detainees. never a case of waterboarding. never a case of any kind of torturing. yet they are there and no one has been able to say what it is about -- they should be closed

James Inhofe

3:15:15 to 3:15:38( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: down. what really troubles me most is the obama administration is more focused on closing down gitmo and protecting the rights of detainees than conducting a war on terror and protecting our country and its people from terrorists like those held currently at gitmo. it's interesting that attorney

James Inhofe

3:15:39 to 3:15:59( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: general holder went down to look should do he came back with a glowing report. about the conditions. and the pentagon report stating that gitmo meets the highest international standards. the very highest standards. unfortunately, the obama administration seems bent on closing down gitmo and i guess

James Inhofe

3:16:00 to 3:16:23( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: for political reasons yet i have not heard these political reasons, why it is that people are so obsessed with the idea of closing it down. i think it's time for the members of because as we look at the evidence that's there and the problems, we have to find a place to put the detainees that are there. and i say to my good friend from

James Inhofe

3:16:24 to 3:16:47( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: vermont, it's not just the 245 detainees currently the ones who are going to b there as a now, people say there are two prisons in afghanistan. there's the problem with that is it's my understanding they will only accept detainees that are afghans so you have others that

James Inhofe

3:16:48 to 3:17:09( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: are going to be -- from saudi arabia, from other areas -- there's no place else they can be put. so i think we have an opportunity there to have a place that is secure that has the highest standards and, again, the only alternative to

James Inhofe

3:17:10 to 3:17:30( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: places where we have the detainees, where we have other places in the united states. in 2007 the senate passed a resolution by a vote of 94-3 and it stated "detainees housed at guantanamo shoul released into american society nor should they be transferred stateside into facilities in

James Inhofe

3:17:31 to 3:17:53( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: american neighborhoods." that's not 94-3. i would suggest to you, madam president, that we'll have the opportunity to call on those 94 and certainly their constituents want to have them released, any of these detainees released and

James Inhofe

3:17:54 to 3:18:15( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: housed in any areas other than gitmo. i think my state of oklahoma is not the only state where the state legislatures have passed resolutions saying we don't want any of the detainees housed in our states. so i think we'll have an taking place in one minute a

James Inhofe

3:18:16 to 3:18:31( Edit History Discussion )

James Inhofe: my opportunity in the next few days before any final action takes place in allowin both the h express a very strong position that they don't want to have

Patrick Leahy

3:18:32 to 3:18:53( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: these detainees placed in any of the stateside with that, i will yield the floor. the presiding ofcer: the senator from vermont. mr. leahy: madam president we have about one minute left and i

Patrick Leahy

3:18:35 to 3:20:00( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Patrick Leahy

Patrick Leahy

3:18:54 to 3:19:14( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: reiterate again colleagues, this is a bill that when it is voted on will vote, i predict and i'm usually good about such predictions, will vote, will pass almost unanimously. certainly get 80 to 90 votes for

Patrick Leahy

3:19:15 to 3:19:36( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: it. and amendments, most republican amendm them or voted them down, but mostly included them on this bill. the cloture was filed oy because a huge number of amendments came in that had

Patrick Leahy

3:19:37 to 3:19:58( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: absolutely nothing to do with the jurisdiction of either judiciary committee or this bill. it's the only way to the bill and give our law enforcement the tools they need. every single law enforcement group in t in and i ask consent at the end of

Patrick Leahy

3:19:59 to 3:20:01( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick Leahy: my remarks, be put into the

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